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Developer/Coder/Alpha server

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:35 am
by BMF1000D
Kasatka wrote:I think the game is stagnating and it's getting boring IMO. Some new gameplay options and felxibility would definitely improve it.

Toonces needs some messing with his head!

Perhaps he should allow some new development. I'm sure there are many members of the community who would be overjoyed to dedicate their time and energy to creating a beta server, dev team etc.

"Keep moving forward"
Someone has suggested it so let's see a sign of hands. Please post if you code, or do graphic work. Please do not post negative comments pertainig to the topic. The purpose of this thread is to get a head count for people who want to donate time in these specific or related areas. Also, It'd be awfully nice if Toonces could respond to this thread with a yes or no at some point!

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:37 am
by BMF1000D
mea wrote:AHHH, that is the BEST idea I have ever seen!!!!
a alpha/dev server
(not beta, that would imply one step from release)

the devel server is a great Idea. limit accounts to players approved by Toonces personally. Mods are allowed, all kinds of things are allowed that aren't open on the public svrs.

All mods and other developments are only applied after acceptance through Toonces or the head developers Toonces has chosen

This paradigm is well known and proven for accelerated development. I would love to see the dev svr idea made real

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:41 am
by BMF1000D
I can do some minor graphic things with Photoshop. I'm no pro, but I'll do what I can. I did the graphic at the top of this page: http://ubb.clandlc.com/ubbthreads.php

Edit: Oh yeah, I also work for an ISP so I could potentially host a server.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:14 am
by DarkLStrike
digital painting with photoshop, no pro, etc etc.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:15 pm
by Kasatka
I'm a software developer and would love the opportunity to help out.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:15 pm
by M2-Destroyer
Well you guys know what?

If you put it together, a beta if you will, then i'm sure Toonces will not have an objection to at least looking.

If you need some sort of advertising (on forums or net) then i will happily create a freewebsite and video's for it.

So here we have it :

- Graphics,
- Programming,
- Advertising,

What else is needed?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:58 am
by BMF1000D
M2-Destroyer wrote:
So here we have it :

- Graphics,
- Programming,
- Advertising,

What else is needed?
Well that depends. I'm not a coder, but at a minimum I expect Kasatka and Mea will need a version of the source code on an isolated and (initially) private server that doesn't get patched afterwards and has VPN access so they can manually upload any modifications and additions to the code that are agreed upon by the dev team.

If Toonces doesn't want to set up the physical machine and bandwidth, I will see what I can do on my end and post the results here.

However, without the source code nothing can happen so I see this as the most important issue. We need to see whether Toonces will allow the use of the current code or not. I can't speak for the programmers, but I doubt they would want to build the game from scratch. Is my assessment correct on this Kasatka and Mea?

Secondly, I had hoped to get a better response from the community of people who had programming knowledge and would donate even a little time each week (wishful thinking?). More hands makes faster progress. If you can do this, PLEASE POST!

Thirdly, if this does go forward, it would probably be wise to create a private developers forum, although that would be getting the cart ahead of the horse at the moment. Also I have another source for a private forum if necessary. For that matter, one probably already exists for Playtechtonics.

So, I guess the bottom line is, will Toonces release the code, and what does he need for that to happen?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:16 am
by Starblazer
Pretty sure he's not going to give out his source code.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:17 am
by Grimoire
Why not just make an identically different version of starpoirt so we don't have to get it from ptt? Some guys did that with o-game, they took the coding and made it the way they wanted it and virtually put ogame outta business for a while.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:45 am
by Cheesy
yea well o game sux

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:05 am
by BMF1000D
Grimoire wrote:Why not just make an identically different version of starpoirt so we don't have to get it from ptt? Some guys did that with o-game, they took the coding and made it the way they wanted it and virtually put ogame outta business for a while.
I'd really rather stay on friendly terms with PTT if possible.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:44 am
by Stklr
I helpedmade Age Of Feudalism.

Its very buggy and unbalanced, but hey. I made something.

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:06 pm
by BMF1000D
Stklr wrote:I helpedmade Age Of Feudalism.

Its very buggy and unbalanced, but hey. I made something.
Are you a programmer, Stklr?

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:49 pm
by M2-Destroyer
Grimoire wrote:Why not just make an identically different version of starpoirt so we don't have to get it from ptt? Some guys did that with o-game, they took the coding and made it the way they wanted it and virtually put ogame outta business for a while.
And the name of this thing is?

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:13 am
by OceanJeff35
I'm a game programmer, and I dabble in graphic design, etc with a few programs, GIMP Especially and PAINT can work miracles!

I'm not good with sprite creation, but if I had a hand in helping program, etc. I would be sufficiently motivated...there's no telling the limit to what someone properly motivated can produce!

I would be willing to help with any ideas that are needed to implement, as well as help with any of my ideas too, as I think from a programming perspective when I make suggestions anyways.

Later,
Jeff

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:09 am
by OceanJeff35
What programming language and software development kit do they use to make this game?

I hope it's either Direct X or Dark GDK.

I would love to look at the source code, and do some tweaks, etc. I'm sure the programmers/owners could let certain users take a peek as long as they signed an agreement...

Later,

Jeff

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:24 am
by feenix
well i built my own site out of jave but my lvl of expertise is no where near as good as my dad but his work keep him piled with work so dought he can help

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:36 am
by OceanJeff35
I also know a lot about assembly language programming, C++, JAVA, and other stuff too.

I'm a programmer's rat...kind of like a gym rat, only for programming.

later,

jeff

:D

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:05 am
by Cheesy
necromancy, smooth

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:10 pm
by TheDestroyer
I know: HTML, Java, SQL (in case you need a database set up) and I'm learning C#.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:30 pm
by master3bs
Grimoire wrote:Why not just make an identically different version of starpoirt so we don't have to get it from ptt? Some guys did that with o-game, they took the coding and made it the way they wanted it and virtually put ogame outta business for a while.
That is bound to violate some TOS. Surely it is against copyright law. You could potentially make a game that was inspired by SP and had many of the same elements, but there could be potential legal issues with developing the same game.

I'm not saying its a bad idea, but I doubt it can be implemented. I know that they will not give any of us the source code (if they are smart.)

I used to be a code developer. Still work in IT.

Perhaps you might be better served to do small demos showing what some of your ideas would look like.

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:46 am
by Cheesy
master3bs wrote:
Grimoire wrote:Why not just make an identically different version of starpoirt so we don't have to get it from ptt? Some guys did that with o-game, they took the coding and made it the way they wanted it and virtually put ogame outta business for a while.
That is bound to violate some TOS. Surely it is against copyright law. You could potentially make a game that was inspired by SP and had many of the same elements, but there could be potential legal issues with developing the same game.

I'm not saying its a bad idea, but I doubt it can be implemented. I know that they will not give any of us the source code (if they are smart.)

I used to be a code developer. Still work in IT.

Perhaps you might be better served to do small demos showing what some of your ideas would look like.
sge probably breaks copyright laws anyway

sge is eve online's retarded little brother :D

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:07 am
by ArdRhys4
EVE online sucks. Oh, poo. Nice screenshots:P

J/k. I like Starport better^^&

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:21 am
by OceanJeff35
I'm also studying Dark GDK, which is free with Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition. I've studied Open Gl programming in Assembly language, and there's a forum for MASM which features this, that I've been a part of for a lot of years.

I have a question, but I'm going to ask it in another thread...

later,

jeff

:lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:21 pm
by Tarvok
Cheesy wrote: sge is eve online's retarded little brother :D
Actually, SGE is Tradewars 2002's wildly successful thirdborn son.

Re: Developer/Coder/Alpha server

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:02 am
by phantomdan
Hey are any of you guys still active ? Would be a great time to team up and get this game marketed and developed

Re: Developer/Coder/Alpha server

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:20 am
by Caia
10 years might be a record necro.