Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

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Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby GRAWRG. » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:38 pm

have stats auto-set to make dex, HIGHLY suggest max dex, or give newbies a free chara recreate.

it's too hard to play with 5-10 dex. newbies will often give up, or realize they need higher dex and learn that they have to wait for their chara to delete to change stats. unless they pay cash for tokens, QUITTING is their only feasible options... as it is near impossible to progress in the same with such pathetic stats.

this idea is easy to implement and would help tremendously. i feel it was being ignored in the research lab, so i came here.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby JesusRocks765 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:34 pm

good idea, add a poll to show toonces.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby 0zzy » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:27 pm

I wouldnt say it will make a huge direction; but its, albeit small, step in the right direction.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby Mel'Kaven » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:39 am

I think I remember myself suggesting this multiple times. good idea, mmhmm
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby Luna » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:47 am

Having max dex should be automatic for stats. Dex is the first HUGE mistake people make when making a character on a game they have no clue how to play. Give people the best chance to survive and thrive. Make other stats the adjustable ones. The ONLY place where dex isn't as important is in a PAX game where you don't have to invade or dodge many things.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby avitohol » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:18 am

Don't you get a free character remake while in newby protection?
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby GRAWRG. » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:34 pm

I don't know. But how long does newbie protection last...? If you do get a free chara recreate, I don't think it should disappear when newbie protection ends. Unless you're told about it (and clearly you aren't) ... then it would take quite a while for a new player to discover it, if ever they do.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby RiveraK2 » Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:07 pm

Good idea. I'm sensing a 40% chance Toonces MIGHT bite on this one.
Let me put it in economic terms for him:

1) Fact: New players = The possibility of making more money.

Reason: If new players buy tokens, profits grow. Its the same premise
as a company getting more customers (called growth), and thus making
more money.

In order to raise the chances of new players spending money on tokens; 3 things
must occur. First, these new players must like SGE. Second, these new players
must get the hang of SGE (this takes time). Third, the player must be old
enough or have parental consent to use credit/debit/paypal.

2) Allowing a free re-create or longer Newbie Protection may help new
players realize their mistakes because, it takes time for players to develop
a sense of how to succeed in SGE. I believe that this in turn will keep new
players from becoming flustered if they realize a non-correctable mistake
was done on their part due to their inexperience. In my opinion becoming
flustered is the main reason new players don't stick around, and that
stagnates profits.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby 0zzy » Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:23 pm

RiveraK2 wrote:Good idea. I'm sensing a 40% chance Toonces MIGHT bite on this one.
Let me put it in economic terms for him:

1) Fact: New players = The possibility of making more money.

Reason: If new players buy tokens, profits grow. Its the same premise
as a company getting more customers (called growth), and thus making
more money.

In order to raise the chances of new players spending money on tokens; 3 things
must occur. First, these new players must like SGE. Second, these new players
must get the hang of SGE (this takes time). Third, the player must be old
enough or have parental consent to use credit/debit/paypal.

2) Allowing a free re-create or longer Newbie Protection may help new
players realize their mistakes because, it takes time for players to develop
a sense of how to succeed in SGE. I believe that this in turn will keep new
players from becoming flustered if they realize a non-correctable mistake
was done on their part due to their inexperience. In my opinion becoming
flustered is the main reason new players don't stick around, and that
stagnates profits.


Your writing is so pretty.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby GRAWRG. » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:50 pm

bump
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby GRAWRG. » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:41 pm

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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby GRAWRG. » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:54 pm

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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby GRAWRG. » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:31 pm

bump.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby GRAWRG. » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:38 am

update! i talked to toonces about this in-game, to insure he knew about it. of course he didnt.

he was surprised to learn that dex is important 0.o which i find strange, since he almost always has max dex everywhere. and i think it's hard not to notice that all top players have max dex... even if you dont play the game.

anyway, i explained how crucial dex is. and how discouraging it is to newbies who inevitably choose the wrong stats. and of course, toonces got the wrong idea from my information: equalize the value of wisdom, dex, and charisma.

this is so not what i meant at all. i guess increasing the effects of wisdom and charisma would be fine, but i told him that dex would always be more valuable than the other two, because high dex is essential to being a good/decent invader, fighter... and runner. and there arent a lot of cases of top players not doing any of those things. being able to defend(with fighting) and retaking your colonies is almost always a necessity in order to move up in the sge world.

toonces seemed to like the free chara recreate credit option, so hopefully he'll patch that in. and my attempt to keep newbies from quitting wont turn into a huge stats mess o.o
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby Saber-Fury » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:12 pm

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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby Mel'Kaven » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:12 am

I made another account to vote yes again.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby wingshooter » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:53 pm

woulda been mighty helpful when i started.
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Re: Awesome Idea to Help Keep New Players!

Postby D-Tox1 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:18 am

GRAWRG. wrote:have stats auto-set to make dex, HIGHLY suggest max dex, or give newbies a free chara recreate.

it's too hard to play with 5-10 dex. newbies will often give up, or realize they need higher dex and learn that they have to wait for their chara to delete to change stats. unless they pay cash for tokens, QUITTING is their only feasible options... as it is near impossible to progress in the same with such pathetic stats.

this idea is easy to implement and would help tremendously. i feel it was being ignored in the research lab, so i came here.


Great Idea *thumbs up
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