The Ultimate Guide to Stealing
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The Ultimate Guide to Stealing
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Are you a trader? Do you happen to have an intrest in becomeing rich and powerful? (sorta) Have you seen those lines of text that say so and so got caught stealing from some port and thought "I'm way better than that guy"? well, then leave cause this is for those who have not yet tredded the dark side of Star Port yet.
I'm sure some of you have tried stealing before. you finally get -1000 rep and go to some random port and steal credits. And I'm quite sure you have made money off of it, however eventually you were caught. So you stratagised and stole less... goes well for a bit but the someone catches you again!!! Can you steal without any chance of getting caught? well, any vet will tell you no, and i will say the same. However you can decrese your chances of getting caught significantly. (after i discovered all that i know i was able to steal a total of 2 mill in a day. thats right discovered, i didnt know these forums were here so i had to teach myslef alot.)
First, stealing is a way of life, not a way to win the game... for that study colinization as the colinizers will win 99% of the time. Also, to earn a decent amount stealing (enough that taxiing is obsolite in compareison) you will need about 5- 10k exp... i try to get 8- 10k before i start. then drop your rep down by jettisoning colinists, attcking good npcs, and other evil things. Once both those are acived you can continue.
Ok, so your ready to steal right? pk well first find a starport. chances are it will have been stolen from before and will be broke... although it is possible to find a rich one (between 50k and 200k credits). So now look at your exp and divide by the arbitray number 2. I choose two because it gets lots of creds and yet is a fairly safe number to steal. Now steal till it say you cant or they go broke. (often its the latter) then move to the next port.
After a couple of ports you will probobly get caught. The reason is simple. You stole to close to another port too long. Think of it this way, if you steal from a bank and then anouther bank, they will boost secrurity in the area to defend more theiveing. So the third time you rob a bank they are waiting to handcuff you as you pull out your gun to rob it.
This took me awile to figure out as i was just content to belive the simple explanation that it is all random. It is.. but not THAT random. Ok so after you rob 3-5 ports you should mark the area with a flag (i use red) to show that its is in a hightened state of awareness... and every few days remove the old ones for stealing again. you should when leaving an area, put about 8- 12 hops between you and the port you stole from. useing this method i have been able to steal alot of creds and yet keep my exp intact. however once your rep drops below a certain point you cant enter a port motel and un space is too expensive so you will have to make due with leaving your ship on a planet. mabey ill write a post some time on crap i learned on that.
I am sure there is way more to stealing than this... after all, the game evolves fast and i am lazy . In no time i expect to see someone corrct me/ add on to this post. Good luck Theiving
-MadAce-
Are you a trader? Do you happen to have an intrest in becomeing rich and powerful? (sorta) Have you seen those lines of text that say so and so got caught stealing from some port and thought "I'm way better than that guy"? well, then leave cause this is for those who have not yet tredded the dark side of Star Port yet.
I'm sure some of you have tried stealing before. you finally get -1000 rep and go to some random port and steal credits. And I'm quite sure you have made money off of it, however eventually you were caught. So you stratagised and stole less... goes well for a bit but the someone catches you again!!! Can you steal without any chance of getting caught? well, any vet will tell you no, and i will say the same. However you can decrese your chances of getting caught significantly. (after i discovered all that i know i was able to steal a total of 2 mill in a day. thats right discovered, i didnt know these forums were here so i had to teach myslef alot.)
First, stealing is a way of life, not a way to win the game... for that study colinization as the colinizers will win 99% of the time. Also, to earn a decent amount stealing (enough that taxiing is obsolite in compareison) you will need about 5- 10k exp... i try to get 8- 10k before i start. then drop your rep down by jettisoning colinists, attcking good npcs, and other evil things. Once both those are acived you can continue.
Ok, so your ready to steal right? pk well first find a starport. chances are it will have been stolen from before and will be broke... although it is possible to find a rich one (between 50k and 200k credits). So now look at your exp and divide by the arbitray number 2. I choose two because it gets lots of creds and yet is a fairly safe number to steal. Now steal till it say you cant or they go broke. (often its the latter) then move to the next port.
After a couple of ports you will probobly get caught. The reason is simple. You stole to close to another port too long. Think of it this way, if you steal from a bank and then anouther bank, they will boost secrurity in the area to defend more theiveing. So the third time you rob a bank they are waiting to handcuff you as you pull out your gun to rob it.
This took me awile to figure out as i was just content to belive the simple explanation that it is all random. It is.. but not THAT random. Ok so after you rob 3-5 ports you should mark the area with a flag (i use red) to show that its is in a hightened state of awareness... and every few days remove the old ones for stealing again. you should when leaving an area, put about 8- 12 hops between you and the port you stole from. useing this method i have been able to steal alot of creds and yet keep my exp intact. however once your rep drops below a certain point you cant enter a port motel and un space is too expensive so you will have to make due with leaving your ship on a planet. mabey ill write a post some time on crap i learned on that.
I am sure there is way more to stealing than this... after all, the game evolves fast and i am lazy . In no time i expect to see someone corrct me/ add on to this post. Good luck Theiving
Woops... almost forgot
Ok, I just remembered that you can steal resources. There are two ways to do this.
1) you can buy the ship that has the cargo disruptor. You can then fly around stealing cargo. But this really is not recommended for the obvious reason that it leaves your victim alive and so he will try to kill you. and with 6k sheilding he will succed if he has a decent ship.
2) steal from a port. Once again you will be stealing from a port. simply divide your exp by 2 or 3 then steal 1 for every 1k. so id you have 15k exp then you can steal 7 cargo or 5 cargo. And like last time you should switch areas every 3-5 ports. I am not currently sre as to whether or not more expensive cargo is harder to steal or not. So if anyone knows anything about that make a post.
1) you can buy the ship that has the cargo disruptor. You can then fly around stealing cargo. But this really is not recommended for the obvious reason that it leaves your victim alive and so he will try to kill you. and with 6k sheilding he will succed if he has a decent ship.
2) steal from a port. Once again you will be stealing from a port. simply divide your exp by 2 or 3 then steal 1 for every 1k. so id you have 15k exp then you can steal 7 cargo or 5 cargo. And like last time you should switch areas every 3-5 ports. I am not currently sre as to whether or not more expensive cargo is harder to steal or not. So if anyone knows anything about that make a post.
Re: The Ultimate Guide to Stealing
Its a great little thing, I will sticky this as many seem to ask about it. However, I have to disagree on the colonizers win 99% of the time, thats true in permas, but not in rebangs, it is possible, and very much so possible in the old BR, to win by raiding and such.....einstin2 wrote: First, stealing is a way of life, not a way to win the game... for that study colinization as the colinizers will win 99% of the time. Also, to earn a decent amount stealing (enough that taxiing is obsolite in compareison) you will need about 5- 10k exp... i try to get 8- 10k before i start. then drop your rep down by jettisoning colinists, attcking good npcs, and other evil things. Once both those are acived you can continue.
One little point on resource stealing.
Sometimes (been awhile since I did it) you can steal resources that the port is buying. As I recall, this occurs when someone has already sold some resources to the port - so it should be at least lower than 99%.
The beauty of this method is that you then sell the resources right back to the port after haggling of course. Naturally, you can't just sit in the port all night doing this "trade" game. You have to move around from port to port.
Sometimes (been awhile since I did it) you can steal resources that the port is buying. As I recall, this occurs when someone has already sold some resources to the port - so it should be at least lower than 99%.
The beauty of this method is that you then sell the resources right back to the port after haggling of course. Naturally, you can't just sit in the port all night doing this "trade" game. You have to move around from port to port.
Ive found that you can do this for a lof of money, but it's very risky.
I once sat in a port, sold it 90 spice, then stole 30 3 times successively, and repeated this for something like 1 million credits(a LOT on rebangs).
Eventually, however, you get caught.
I have done this a few times, I always make a lot of money, but always get caught eventually. I once tested this with metal ore and got caught stealing 15 metal ore.
I once sat in a port, sold it 90 spice, then stole 30 3 times successively, and repeated this for something like 1 million credits(a LOT on rebangs).
Eventually, however, you get caught.
I have done this a few times, I always make a lot of money, but always get caught eventually. I once tested this with metal ore and got caught stealing 15 metal ore.
A quick table for exp->credits:
1/8th of your experience is very safe.
1/6th of your experience is very safe.
1/5th of your experience is safe.
1/4th of your experience is moderately safe.
1/3rd of your experience is not safe.
1/2 of your experience is not safe.
A cloak divides these numbers by .85 or so, let's say.
1/8th of your experience is very safe.
1/6th of your experience is very safe.
1/5th of your experience is safe.
1/4th of your experience is moderately safe.
1/3rd of your experience is not safe.
1/2 of your experience is not safe.
A cloak divides these numbers by .85 or so, let's say.
How much experience did you have?Mua'Dib wrote:Ive found that you can do this for a lof of money, but it's very risky.
I once sat in a port, sold it 90 spice, then stole 30 3 times successively, and repeated this for something like 1 million credits(a LOT on rebangs).
Eventually, however, you get caught.
I have done this a few times, I always make a lot of money, but always get caught eventually. I once tested this with metal ore and got caught stealing 15 metal ore.
In the almost 3 years on and off I've played starport this is the only formula I've used, (And I've only been caught 5 times robbing ports in total during this ebntire time)
Set the ammount to rob in credits to just under 1/2 your total exp (once I hit 100k+ exp I stop at 50k creds, will explain)
example Exp 3457
set ammount to 1600 creds and rob until security becomes too high or you empty port.
example Exp 185643
Set ammount to 50,000 creds and rob until port is empty or security too high to continue.
The reason to go less than half by just a hair is that it lowers your chance of being caught to just about 0%
When higher in Exp your chances multiply by the 100k exp, so at 200K your odds are doubled unless you stay at 50,000 creds. At 400k exp you can steal 100k creds at a time, 200k creds at 800k exp, and so on. it's a good rule to follow, and I guarentee if you play for over a year you will still only be caught a handfull of times following this routine.
I would easily clear 3 mil in a matter of 30 min, at lower exp levels this way, it does not matter how many ports you rob or how many times you hit the rob button, only rule of thumb is don't be too greedy with the ammount you select, use patience and you will clear more money and nearly never be caught.
Set the ammount to rob in credits to just under 1/2 your total exp (once I hit 100k+ exp I stop at 50k creds, will explain)
example Exp 3457
set ammount to 1600 creds and rob until security becomes too high or you empty port.
example Exp 185643
Set ammount to 50,000 creds and rob until port is empty or security too high to continue.
The reason to go less than half by just a hair is that it lowers your chance of being caught to just about 0%
When higher in Exp your chances multiply by the 100k exp, so at 200K your odds are doubled unless you stay at 50,000 creds. At 400k exp you can steal 100k creds at a time, 200k creds at 800k exp, and so on. it's a good rule to follow, and I guarentee if you play for over a year you will still only be caught a handfull of times following this routine.
I would easily clear 3 mil in a matter of 30 min, at lower exp levels this way, it does not matter how many ports you rob or how many times you hit the rob button, only rule of thumb is don't be too greedy with the ammount you select, use patience and you will clear more money and nearly never be caught.
Sorry Maniacus, but I and several others got caught a TON when we were always stealing under half our xp worth in credits. And we got caught stealing usually with less than 200k xp (I got caught I think three times with a cloak stealing under 50k when I had over 100k xp).
Meanwhile, earlier today on p2 I stole 16 mil in one grab with about 200k xp.
Stealing is just completely random as far as I'm concerned.
Meanwhile, earlier today on p2 I stole 16 mil in one grab with about 200k xp.
Stealing is just completely random as far as I'm concerned.
Zavrith wrote:Sorry Maniacus, but I and several others got caught a TON when we were always stealing under half our xp worth in credits. And we got caught stealing usually with less than 200k xp (I got caught I think three times with a cloak stealing under 50k when I had over 100k xp).
Meanwhile, earlier today on p2 I stole 16 mil in one grab with about 200k xp.
Stealing is just completely random as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed, which is why i never steal in rebangs anymore, not worth teh exp loss...
Can anyone beat this one - 45 hops from sol, first time in the port, carrying a cloak, had approx 270k exp and got caught stealing 16K credits, ended up costing me Gold
What makes it worse, i already had over 9mil on hand
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Here's how it was explained to me a long time ago, and has worked for me ever since. The half xp thing is right, keep in mind your stealing, so yea there's a chance you'll get caught. Don't do the crime if ya can't do the time? But one thing I didn't see mentioned is the cloak. With the Cloak, I've always used my exact xp, I dunno about 2 or 3 cloaks, tried it once in the days before permas and was stealing obcene amounts of cash. I might play with that some on a perma one of these days
Last time i was caught on a rebang i had 270k exp, a cloak, 45 hops from sol, first time in the port and got caught stealing 16k credits!greg wrote:Here's how it was explained to me a long time ago, and has worked for me ever since. The half xp thing is right, keep in mind your stealing, so yea there's a chance you'll get caught. Don't do the crime if ya can't do the time? But one thing I didn't see mentioned is the cloak. With the Cloak, I've always used my exact xp, I dunno about 2 or 3 cloaks, tried it once in the days before permas and was stealing obcene amounts of cash. I might play with that some on a perma one of these days
Never stole on rebangs again
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with 1 cloak, i've never been caught as long as i don't exceed which ever is lowest, my exp or my neg rep. With 2 cloaks, I can get by with 2.5 times the lowest score. With 3 cloaks, I do 5 times my lowest score safely... exceeded it by 1 once, just to see, and got caught... read into it what you will.
and again, no cloaks... staying less than half of which ever is lowest of your exp or neg rep.
and again, no cloaks... staying less than half of which ever is lowest of your exp or neg rep.