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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:53 am

Moleman wrote:I live in the UK which has become over the years an increasingly liberal country, both politically and socially. I'm not suggesting that the death penalty will ever return here, it won't!

However in my opinion there are people who commit certain crimes that I think forfeit their right to live, I admit that as the father of a young child my opinion is an emotional one but there are people in prison who have abducted, raped and murdered children... They don't deserve to live, I don't care if it's politically incorrect or morally wrong it's MY opinion and by defination cannot be wrong!
only after they get butt f.ucked with the trunk of an extremely large tree maybe even do it in stages, start out with a year old sappling and work up to a 500 year old giant redwood

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Camaril » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:33 pm

that would destroy a lot of trees, just adding more pollution to this planet

/slap idea

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by devilwolf » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:26 pm

Camaril wrote:that would destroy a lot of trees, just adding more pollution to this planet

/slap idea
raoflmao. :lol:

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:29 pm

Camaril wrote:that would destroy a lot of trees, just adding more pollution to this planet

/slap idea
to appease the tree hugger i'll planet 10 trees for everyone used for my torture. then i will use the decomposing bodies of ppl executed to fertalize the new tree's. circle of life

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by nine-breaker » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:47 am

kenoneill wrote:
Camaril wrote:that would destroy a lot of trees, just adding more pollution to this planet

/slap idea
to appease the tree hugger i'll planet 10 trees for everyone used for my torture. then i will use the decomposing bodies of ppl executed to fertalize the new tree's. circle of life
Excellent idea, but we would run out of areas to planet trees in about 5 years time lol.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:24 am

nine-breaker wrote:
kenoneill wrote:
Camaril wrote:that would destroy a lot of trees, just adding more pollution to this planet

/slap idea
to appease the tree hugger i'll planet 10 trees for everyone used for my torture. then i will use the decomposing bodies of ppl executed to fertalize the new tree's. circle of life
Excellent idea, but we would run out of areas to planet trees in about 5 years time lol.
yes but by then i'll be using my new trees to butt rape the new pedo's. again the circle of life.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Camaril » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:02 pm

we would then have to wait 500 years to give the criminals the 500 year treee butt-rape

it would work after the first 500 years

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by MuTAnT » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:28 am

I think if you were violated by a one year old sappling you would still be almost certain to die. Your arse is pretty sensitive you know!

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Camaril » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:02 pm

i don't think there should be a death penalty, itleast not right after they die. torture them for 15 years or so and keep stopping when they are about to die, after 15 years just keep torturing them until they die.

then, if you can. pod them :wink:

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Destructo » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:58 am

God made it simple
an Eye for an Eye
etc...

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Caia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:29 am

Destructo wrote:God made it simple
an Eye for an Eye
etc...
"Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."

I always liked God's son better than God.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:34 am

Caia wrote:
Destructo wrote:God made it simple
an Eye for an Eye
etc...
"Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."

I always liked God's son better than God.
as a percentage of the population the mythical being "god"s so called servants on earth are the biggest bunch of pedo's around so f.u.c.k him and f.u.c.k his word. string'em all up and be done with it

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Caia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:35 am

Oh? Got numbers to back that up?

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:39 am

Caia wrote:Oh? Got numbers to back that up?
yes i do. in irish jails out of all the pedos in there 45% are members of ther roman catholic church. when you take into account at the last census that priests make up less than half of 1% of the total population of ireland i think this speaks for itself

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Caia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:27 am

Being a "member of the church" != Priest.

Try again.

Edit: Or did you mean as a servant of the church I should interperate that as a follower of the church? If that's the case, then go to any non-Christan country. You'll see the followers of that religion make of the highest percent of both the inmate population AND the population that also are pedophiliacs.

Either way, you're presenting a fallacy here.
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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:34 am

when i said member of roman catholic church i was refering to priests and brothers

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by MastrIan » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:34 am

kenoneill wrote:when i said member of roman catholic church i was refering to priests and brothers
Fathers?

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Caia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:37 am

kenoneill wrote:when i said member of roman catholic church i was refering to priests and brothers
I edited my above response. You're presenting a fallacy. Specifically this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_example

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:40 am

Caia wrote:
kenoneill wrote:when i said member of roman catholic church i was refering to priests and brothers
I edited my above response. You're presenting a fallacy. Specifically this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_example
you asked for proof, i gave it. take it or leave it

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Caia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:44 am

I hadn't thought I needed to explain this but... The evidence you offer shouldn't be a fallacy.

For instance, since I have seen a red apple, all apples must be red. This is untrue, and shouldn't taken as evidence because it is a fallacy.

You can claim the sky is green and dogs are cats and 2+2 is 5, but don't expect to fool people with such inanity. Nor should you expect to be taken very seriously.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by kenoneill » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:08 am

i understand what your saying, i can only go on the facts in evidence, 45% priests pedo's in jail half of 1% of the total pop. there the facts

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Caia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:44 am

Ok, assuming those are 100% true, they don't help your argument. That's akin to saying "My cat is gray because it rained on Monday." Now, it DID rain on Monday and my cat IS gray. But one doesn't lead to the other. Generally, if you want to make an argument, you need to present evidence for it. While the stuff you're saying may be all 100% true, the reasoning behind it is flawed.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by MadAce » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:59 am

kenoneill,

you're being owned by Caia. This is utterly humiliating.

Just saying.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Barefoot » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:05 am

kenoneill wrote:
Camaril wrote:that would destroy a lot of trees, just adding more pollution to this planet

/slap idea
to appease the tree hugger
This made me laugh because I read it without the filter.... then cry a bit.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by nine-breaker » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:36 pm

Barefoot wrote:
kenoneill wrote:
Camaril wrote:that would destroy a lot of trees, just adding more pollution to this planet

/slap idea
to appease the tree hugger
This made me laugh because I read it without the filter.... then cry a bit.
I too cried in laughter once i read how you pointed that out

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Camaril » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:12 pm

awesome new avatar nine

(off-topic i know)

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by Caia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:28 pm

MadAce wrote:kenoneill,

you're being owned by Caia. This is utterly humiliating.

Just saying.
Its the exact same reasoning I applied to most of your arguments before I gave up on trying to reasonably convince you of anything, MadAce. :lol:

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by nine-breaker » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:11 am

Camaril wrote:awesome new avatar nine

(off-topic i know)
:D

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by MadAce » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:09 am

Caia wrote:
MadAce wrote:kenoneill,

you're being owned by Caia. This is utterly humiliating.

Just saying.
Its the exact same reasoning I applied to most of your arguments before I gave up on trying to reasonably convince you of anything, MadAce. :lol:
Difference is of course that I am right. Being right is insta-win for any argument.

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Re: Death Penalty

Post by skynet » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:23 pm

MadAce wrote:
Dave34 wrote:I don't care about the morality other than providing closure to the victims family and friends. Criminals don't deserve to live, crime is intollerable, prison is too good for some (if not most) criminals. This country needs stronger and faster justice for everyone.
How is adding another victim to the list of victims providing closure to the family and friends? Revenge is only destructive and serves no actual goal other than to shallowly alleviate a sense of powerlessness among the victims.

And I don't see how you'd force people to uphold laws that are broken by society itself.
your wrong madace, revenge is not purely negative, your just too full of your ego... the notion of revenge prevents many from committing crimes...

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